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Over My Dead Body. Over My Dead Body is an anthology series about people who are pushed beyond their limits and do unspeakable things. And she was very, very sweet. So this is very devastating for me, my family, the fans and the world, because she was a voice that the world enjoyed very much.
I wish it was a better occasion. Be well. You did a duet with Whitney, didn't you? We did a lot of music from the very beginning, from the very beginning. JACKSON: Well, just -- just standing opposite of her in front of a microphone and just hearing this talent from the very beginning -- I think I worked with her when she was I mean, our lives really started right there at the Beverly Hills Hotel. I think it was Bungalow B something.
I was going there to be signed to Arista after having sold so many years at Motown with my ex- father in law, Barry Gordy. And then Clive Davis and I sat down, and we worked out a deal. Right after that, he asked me if I could do something for this artist. That's when he put on a tape and it was Whitney Houston singing.
And that's the approach that I took from the very beginning. But she's always been sweet. I would see her in places, and she would say, are you OK, Jackson?
I would say, yeah, I'm fine; are you OK? I always wanted her to get back on the right track. I don't want to talk about the things that happened in her life on the downside of things, because I think it's important she has done so much good for the world with her music and her sales.
And that's what the media tends to do. They tend to look at the negative things. But there's a lot of good. There's a lot of good.
She inspired a lot of young females and males and singers. We loved her. My family loved her. She's definitely -- MORGAN: Jermaine, if I could jump in, Jermaine, I just wanted to ask you, again about the parallels with your brother Michael, because both of them were these hugely famous, iconic entertainers.
They both died around the same age. And both of them were exposed to really ferocious media scrutiny and pressure, not just the media, from the public as well, for many, many years. Do you think it's become almost impossible to lead any kind of normal life given the glare of modern media with the Internet, with 24 hour news and so on? You saw it first hand with Michael. And friends of Whitney's have talked about it tonight.
Do you think it's becoming really, really difficult? JACKSON: Yes, it is, because with Twitter and Facebook and all of the different ways of getting information out there that's not true, and people finding out about people's lives and the rumors spreads and all of the gossip shows and the tabloid hoopla, yes.
But at the same time, when there's a young star, whether it's my brother or Whitney, there's always a wall being built around them that keeps family away. And in these trying times and these hours of despair, family should be there. And all of the time, family is not there because they're being kept away. I knew her mother very, very well, her brother, her father. And they seemed to be very, very close when she first started.
But I'm pretty sure, just like with my brother, if the industry and the people they come, the ticks and the parasites and the people, and they surround themselves and they want to become his mother, his father, his sister, his brother, her mother, her father, her sister, brother. And they push the family away.
That has a lot to do with this, because at the end, there's nothing more strong than family. And if you are close to your family, you can have a successful life on stage and offstage. Do you think it's fair to blame Bobby Brown for a lot of the problems that she suffered?
I think when Whitney did the 30th, my brother's show, she was very thin. And I was very much concerned. And she said, yes. But see, we can only se and guess what's going on. As far as Bobby, I've always enjoyed Bobby's talent. And we all hear these things. But we don't know as to how much truth there was to these statements when they were put out there.
But I will say that we're all accountable for our own actions. And we can't say it was Bobby. We can't say it was this, because at the end of the day, we're all adults. It was interesting because Piers earlier called -- your brother was the King of Pop, and Piers earlier said Whitney was the Queen of Pop.
I'm sure there was a friendly competition. And they were happening in the '80s and '90s, both at the same time, with Whitney and your brother. I didn't catch the last part. But I will say Michael and Whitney shared a lot of success during the '80s. And they became friends. I'm very happy and proud and very honored that I got a chance to be a part of her life, to help create that world of success with Clive Davis.
And Clive has been unbelievable with Whitney and myself, and just having that vision. And we've always had a very solid relationship, where we would say hi and just really care about each other. I felt that she really genuinely cared about me and my family. Just like I said, she had called and phoned me when Michael passed. She was very much concerned about how I was doing.
So I was very happy that she had phoned during the time. And you are the brother of one of the greatest singers in history. How good do you think from a technical point of view, Whitney's voice was?
Because obviously to a layman like me, it sounded unbelievable. But tell me about the voice. JACKSON: Whitney was incredible because she was an artist that -- she had a lot of influence from her mom, Aretha Franklin, a lot of the greats that were out there before her. But just being in the studio with her, I'll never forget when we were singing "If You Say My Eyes Are Beautiful," and just standing on the opposite side of the microphone.
I would do my part and she would do her part. And here's someone that would take a lyric and give it so much feeling and so much conviction and so much soul. And I was just mesmerized, even when she was 18, and we were doing music.
But she was an incredible artist and voice. That was a gift. That's definitely a gift. And it was devastating to hear her tour later, and then to not hear that voice as clear as it was from the very beginning.
And we have to take care of our instrument, which is the voice. But she was an incredible artist, incredible singer. She could sing anything, Piers, anything. MORGAN: Do you think, Jermaine, that the pressure of losing the quality of her voice was beginning to really bear down on her, because that's the sense that I'm getting from people who knew her well, is that when you have had this astonishing peak to a voice, that if you start to lose that, it becomes a really, really awful thing to deal with?
But I saw some of the concerts, some of the comments from the concerts that she did in Australia. And the people were saying horrible things.
They wanted their money back. But you have to give it to her. She went up there and she tried. And whether she was making a mockery of herself, she put forth the effort. And you have to give her the A for the effort, whether the voice was there or not. She showed up. She did had show. But I could tell that there was something wrong and something different, because of -- it just takes a toll when you don't take care of the voice, the vocal chords.
But she will always be remembered as the greatest female singer of all time, really. She was a voice for the world to enjoy, definitely. I'm hearing that as well.
Jermaine, are you still there? LEMON: Jermaine, it's interesting because sitting here and talking to you on the air, just how the fans love your brother and love Whitney Houston. They're guiding me through the coverage here. And it's interesting. You have to correct that. And they will always love Whitney Houston. Here is the thing, I sat behind you in court just a couple months ago. And my heart just went out to your mom. And your mom and I kind of bonded.
And we would share our nods and hellos every day in court. And you said you knew Whitney for such a long time. Her mother, I can't help but think about Cissy Houston. And do you have a few words for Cissy Houston and for the family and what she's probably dealing with right now, having gone through it with your mom?
But you mentioned we were in court during the last trial, right? Of my brother? Having dealt with it yourself with your mother, Whitney's mom, Cissy, have you reached out to her?
Can you tell our viewers what's on your mind when it comes to her and what she's possibly dealing with, having dealt with it yourself? I can imagine what she's going through because I -- we have been through it with my mother. And it's very tough to lose a child and for you to outlive your child is very tough.
So I haven't had time to do anything but talk to you guys. But I'm catching a plane back to the states. I'm just hoping that she stays strong. And our hearts go out for her mom and her brother, Gary, and her father and all of her loved ones.
It's very tough. You just -- this is when family is so important, when you pull together and you mourn together. We're still mourning for my brother.
I mean, I was just with a bunch of the fans here yesterday, and just talking to them and giving them sort of a feeling of ease and signing pictures of Michael and the brothers and the Jackson 5 and myself. And now here is Whitney. And it's just so much. It's so much. I mean, Smoky said it best, "we need to remember the good things about her.
We need to learn from this as well. And it's just what we're going through in these times. Piers, stand by. Piers Morgan joining me in Los Angeles tonight with this coverage of the sad death of Whitney Houston. You're quite correct. He's performing with New Edition. And he paid tribute, as you said, to Whitney Houston tonight. So Piers, stand by. We're going to get to a quick break. Piers and I will be back with continued coverage of the death of Whitney Houston. Welcome to our viewers around the world.
I'm here in Atlanta, excuse me. My colleague Piers Morgan is covering the story for us. He's in Los Angeles tonight. And we have team coverage tonight. We want to start with Kareen Wynter. She's our entertainment correspondent. And Kareen, you have been getting reaction from people in the music industry tonight. And I'll get to that in just a second, Don. The party may be going on in Beverly Hills tonight with that Clive Davis party, but we're seeing stars pulling out, Tweeting about it, in fact.
Sharon Osbourne Tweeted a short time ago that she's too devastating, too heart broken to attend. And speaking of the big pre-Grammy events, you know, the biggest party of all happening tonight, Don.
We were able to confirm that Whitney Houston was scheduled to attend. She wasn't going to perform there. She wasn't going to be attending the Grammys at all, either, tomorrow. And really what is so tragic in all of this -- and I know you and Piers have been discussing is this all night long -- is Bobbi Kristina and how she must be holding up during this very, very difficult time. They're not sure of her exact whereabouts. But quote, "she's not doing well at this time. He hosted the party, Don, on Thursday where Whitney Houston performed, where people said she just looked so comfortable, so beautiful on stage.
And that Bobbi Kristina -- they were encouraging her to go up and perform with mom. She's always stepping back, letting mom take the spotlight. But she was right there to se her mom really perform for the last time.
And quickly, I just want to get to a really, real a poignant comment. Eddy Luverd ph , who has known Whitney Houston for decades, I spoke with him at length on the phone a short time ago. And he really, really sums up what so many people are feeling really at this hour and all of their shock over what has happened. He said, Don, that there is now a hole in all of our souls. He told me a really touching story. By the way, he's not in L. And he said, Kareen, thank goodness I am not there.
I want to deal with this mourning, this grieving from a distance. He's in Atlanta right now. And he said Whitney was here a few years ago. She actually attended one of his concerts, went backstage. And he said everyone knew Whitney as this big over the top star, a diva. He said it was so -- couldn't be further from the truth. She was so down to Earth and that they really just joked all night long in his dressing room. And that's the Whitney that he wants to remember, and he wants to hold on to.
And that this is a game. He said this, Don. This is a game with a lot of pressure. And this is one of the big pit falls we're seeing right now, the loss of a beloved entertainer.
Don't go anywhere. I want to read this one just coming into my e-mail, Kareen, and then we can talk about some other folks who are sending their condolences. This is Bishop TD Jakes saying "we're deeply saddened by the tragic and untimely passing of Whitney Houston, whom we were blessed to have just completed work with the remake of her film "Sparkle. She will be sorely missed by us all. But Kareen Wynter, you're hearing from people there. And as you said, the gentleman just said, I can't deal with it.
I want to be in Los Angeles right now. I couldn't deal with it. It seems every time, it's always -- because L. And every time we have to deal with a tragedy like this, we go to the same place pretty much. We're at the Staples Center, at the Beverly Hilton, and in the same places where they have the memorials for these stars.
And sometimes it's like, are we going to have to do this in -- there are pictures now, live pictures of the Staples Center in Los Angeles, and the Nokia Theater right near there, where the Grammys are going to be held, and then the Grammy pre-party they had tonight at the Beverly Hilton Hotel, hosted by Clive Davis.
We heard from Tony Bennett. We saw some video from him earlier, his statement on camera. And then behind him, I saw Gladys Knight, who was next in line or next in the cue to be interviewed and talk about Whitney Houston as well. Another diva, another star. And I'm sure her heart is breaking as well. It's so fresh because of what you mentioned. It just seems like this just happened. And it really did with Don Cornelius, another big legend in the music industry passing.
And people are still trying to heal from that, trying to grapple with the huge loss. And it's really going to change the tone of tomorrow's Grammys. You can just imagine what producers are scrambling to put together now behind the scenes, because it is, Don, an event where you do celebrate music. You do celebrate the best and brightest, but this is going have to be undoubtedly toned down now given the nature of what's happened. And of course, that's what's happening on the West Coast.
Thank you very much, Kareen Wynter. But Whitney Houston is an East Coaster. Earlier this evening, the mayor of Newark released a statement sending his condolences as well. Let's go to Piers Morgan. Are you there? I don't know if we had this already tonight, but it's a really moving Tweet from Bette Midler, which is sort of a repeat if we have everybody, "little by little, these deaths kill the best part of each of us, the awe and joy we feel when we hear a gift that can only come from God.
There's a sense tonight that we have lost something very, very special. I think Poppy, they're planning a pretty special event in her memory. Is that right? I think you said it exactly right, a God-given talent. We're out front of the New Hope Baptist Church. If you can recall from videos, some know it very well, of Whitney Houston as a young girl singing here, her hair back in a ponytail, people looking fondly back at that on Youtube tonight.
This is the place where Whitney Houston began her singing career. And it's a place that is very much still a part of the Houston family. I spoke tonight extensively with Pastor Joe Carter outside of the church, who issued a statement just a short while ago.
And he told me that Whitney's mother Cissy is still very much a part of the church. She was actually a choir director here for 54 years. And I asked him, what is the relationship now between the Houston family and this church. He said, it is, quote, inseparable. Starting tomorrow morning at a. And he said he will be preaching throughout the day with, quote, a heavy heart. So clearly a God-given talent. And you're going to see people coming into the church and coming very, very early in the morning to pay honor to Whitney Houston.
And she began life as a gospel singer in a -- and the church very important to her. So I'm sure that her family will be really important there. Poppy, thank you very much indeed. We'll be back after a short break with more on the devastating breaking news of the death of Whitney Houston at the age of And we're going to go straight there now to join CNN's Jane Velez-Mitchell and Michelle Turner, who are at the Beverly Hilton, where Clive Davis, Whitney Houston's great mentor from Arista Records, is hosting what was supposed to be a celebration, a pre-Grammy party, but it has turned, I would imagine, into something of a wake.
Jane, tell me what's going on there. Piers, behind me, there are fans singing a medley of Whitney Houston songs in tribute to her. This has just happened spontaneously and it's been happening through the night.
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